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Why does Flickr find art as offensive as porn?

Filed under: General — August 24, 2006 @ 6:31 pm

Flickr has been stopping photographs of art work from appearing in public areas and searches because, apparently, photos of art are not photos!! Even many artists who pay for pro accounts have not realised that this has happened to them as it’s hidden in the small print! It all seems rather clandestine as I and many others have not been aware that their photostreams have gone NIPSA (Not in Public Site Areas)! Please read the links below and have a say.

Check out my brother’s blog entry on this topic.
Here is the digg forum on this topic where you can also add comments which hopefully Flickr might take notice of!
Roy Blumenthal’s rational and interesting take on this Flickr situation.
Garrick Van Burren also makes a good point!
To complain (politely, so we don’t all get banned, please) in a Flickr forum on the subject click here.

Probably the most constructive thing we can do, as Roy Blumenthal suggests, is to send Flickr a politely worded note via their ‘Help By Email’ link Please be polite. We don’t want to be banned! We want to be made public and treated like humans so please treat them like humans.

7 Comments »

  1. Mandi:

    Hi Fiona,

    Yes, this has been in contention for some time it seems - see a thread I started in the Flickr Ideas Forums here — http://www.flickr.com/forums/ideas/26383/ — they SAY that they are going to do something about it, and that it’s not vindictive or whatever.

    I am not sure about that - if you want to post and get others to post in that thread, that would be great, but my angle is not to piss them off, but rather keep putting the idea in their face so they can’t ignore it…

    I know - it sucks, because flickr is such a great space, and there simply IS NO OTHER place like it - there are other image sharing spaces, but not like flickr.

    And my other angle is that where do they draw the line between art and photography..???

    Best of luck!

    Mandi (babushka)
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/babushka/

  2. Murat:

    With its smooth interface and generous capacity Flickr won our hearts. Then brake our hearts very badly.
    I’ve been writing about this to Flickr forums and then actually directly to the Flickr staff, and it wasn’t much polite either. As I consider the disrespectfulness an insult, I coulden’t hold my words back.
    Flicker has a NIPSA ideology which means they consider all ‘non photo’ images as “Not In Public Site Areas” which is a result of basic ignorance lacks the knowledge that even a photo which hasn’t been processed by an image manuplation application (like PhotoShop) is already a mechanical and electronical visional interpretation of the camera and its designers not the reality. Then comes: What if I alter colors via PhotoShop; what if I put a few brush strokes via Painter; what if I shoot a portrait in front of a pinting; what if my model goes away and I shoot the painting only; what if I scan the same painting rather then shooting it with a camera; what is the difference between a digital camera and a scanner (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mur58/113540756)?
    Probably Flickr wants to profit from the Digital Camera market. This may be the reason they are so keen on snapshots. But this is no excuse for being hostile against art and artists.
    If the Flickr has been running Louvre or Prado or MOMA nobody under 18 would let in or/and most of the pictures would be exhibited in X-rated rooms below the basement. This, I amvery to say this, remind me the Nazis culture policy which considers some modern art as ‘degeneration’.

  3. remedy:

    so, has anyone found a new site for artists? i have enjoyed what freedoms there are in flickr. i know that it could be better. please email me with the art photo host site.

    politics are pornography,
    just the same as the python swallowing the white rat.
    its getting better.
    sab

  4. fiona:

    Thank you all for your comments. As you say Mandi, there is no other place like it. http://www.deviantart.com is pretty good but not as good as Flickr and I’ve just heard about http://www.zooomr.com which gives free pro accounts to bloggers and they host photos and are art friendly! Hooray! They also do track backs so you can see if anyone else has blogged your images. It’s new and I havn’t tried it yet but check it out. You might like it!

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